Speaker 1: 0:17

Hello and welcome to let's Talk Procurement, the only show you need to master the art of procurement. Let's go hello and welcome back to another episode of your favorite procurement podcast with me, aka luke. One with me, as always, is luke 10, the uh the fan favorite, the pod favorite and the uh sips icon. How are you doing, my friend?

Speaker 2: 0:44

yeah, I'm all right. I'm a bit a bit bamboozled as to what's going on here we have done luke 10's results live in this episode.

Speaker 1: 0:54

So tuck your shirts in, sit down, put your belt on, put your harness on, put your helmet on, because this is going to be one bumpy ride.

Speaker 2: 1:04

Boys, let's go and also stay tuned to uh to hear some podcast updates. Hashtag format switch we'll do the bulletin at the end, so stay tuned for that as well.

Speaker 1: 1:17

Brilliant you missed a bit where I said uh in between. I'm incredibly sad and really need your support.

Speaker 2: 1:23

Yeah, well, I got you. I got you, bro, don't worry, I'm here. I'm here to fight your demons with you.

Speaker 1: 1:33

Thank you very much. Yeah, I do need some help with that, but obviously we're here to talk about your demons. Yes, indeed, the essay exam. So have you genuinely not even checked yet? I feel like you have not checked.

Speaker 2: 1:45

I've not checked. We've got a group chat with our, with our cohort, and, uh, people have been putting their results in there, so you've got a good, good feeling they're up well, I know, yeah, I know people have said that they're out and in the system.

Speaker 2: 1:59

Um and uh, I had to put a bit of motivational. Um, people are getting a bit stressed about their results and they're saying, okay, well, it's friday today. People are saying, you know, if I open them am I going to ruin my weekend. So, you know, as I, as I, as my role is to sort of you know, the uh, motivator of the class I put in the chat win or lose, we're on the booze. Um, so turning it into like a football away day right of the class.

Speaker 1: 2:27

I put in the chat win or lose.

Speaker 2: 2:28

We're on the booze Turning it into a football away day, right, yeah, I mean I think it was an acceptable comment to make.

Speaker 1: 2:38

Have you got a little attachment upgrade for your mic? No, oh, was that that little fun thing? The big black thing in front of the tip, was that always there? Yeah, I like it yeah yeah, it looks decent, looks half professional yes, yeah, but also my hair doesn't look professional. Recent trim about two hours ago no, the hair's all right, just the beard's a bit interesting shape. Yeah, well, I got her to do a weird shape. Yeah, they've gone a bit too much under here that's what I asked her to do.

Speaker 1: 3:16

When you're face forward, your double chin comes down, but it's not.

Speaker 2: 3:19

It's got no hair on it yeah, but that was on purpose, because when I went to turkey he shaved it really low, so then, it just looked like a hairy sack was dangling down I guess it depends whether you prefer it bold or hairy, doesn't it really?

Speaker 1: 3:36

yeah?

Speaker 2: 3:36

I suppose I'm gonna go for the old, mid, mid, mid yeah, yeah, yeah, your beard is getting, uh, getting a bit longer. It's an illusion.

Speaker 1: 3:45

Total hair, total hair is increasing it's a bit of an illusion, my friend. Um, the camera adds sort of you know, five or six centimeters onto the, uh, the length there, and that's good information to know I uh, yeah, I have to. I have to keep the beard to make up for the kind of recession that's going on up top. It feels a bit like the 2008 crisis, where it's just all going down. No one's investing in your hair no the only people that might might be Turkish, investing in the saviour, the salvation.

Speaker 2: 4:24

Yeah, as you know, know, but as the listeners probably don't know, I went to turkey recently and on the flight back there were a lot of people who just had their hair done, just had their noses done, and yeah, I guess, well, going to turkey in january is kind of that's so kind of monday night, isn't it?

Speaker 1: 4:44

it's a bit of a random thing to do. You know me, random is my third middle name what did you learn in Turkey that you can share with the listeners? What kind of insights have you got?

Speaker 2: 4:56

what language?

Speaker 1: 4:56

culture. Give me a just something to make these guys better procurement professionals.

Speaker 2: 5:02

Let's say cultural differences, anything to be fair, I did do some negotiation in the bazaars while I was out there. Um, I don't really know if I got a good deal. I was sort of just like I just went into the negotiations and wanted some money off, like I didn't really, because it's difficult when you're negotiating in a foreign currency, I think, because they know or like they can say a price and that they don't have to translate it, whereas we would have to sort of do a rough calculation in our head while we're standing there, yeah, and think what does this actually mean in in my currency? So if it's like, oh yeah, this is 600 lira, you're like, well, I, well, I'm going to have to work out how many pounds that is.

Speaker 1: 5:47

Yeah, I mean that sounds like a lot.

Speaker 2: 5:51

I think it's about 12 pound 50.

Speaker 1: 5:56

Oh right, I would have been going absolutely not Take me down to like 10, 10 lira without even understanding the actual.

Speaker 2: 6:04

So this might make it a dated ep, but I think the current price is about 44 lira is one pound oh, okay, okay, anybody guess the day, guess, guess the date of this episode recording and uh, we might give you 44 liras and 78 cents or whatever they have. No, they don't, they don't do that, they just go. They keep it, whole numbers which I like nice.

Speaker 1: 6:27

I once negotiated a deal for, uh, my sister in turkey. I actually sold her for three camels and a um a tub of baklava. But my, uh, my mom was fuming and I literally got kind of pulled out of the shop and got a bit of a whopping. Afterwards she said, she, I didn't. I genuinely didn't realize that the uh, the shop owner was being serious. He was like, how many camels for her, how many camels? And I was like, well, three, surely that's a good amount. But, um, yeah, I got a bit of trouble from uh, from mummy, then. So it's results, but also you need to give a little bit of an insight into what the result is for right, because, right, okay, we went quite deep into the first first essay that you did, but the second one I think we did give us a little, you know, like an overview.

Speaker 2: 7:15

Yeah yeah, and to link to. To link on that as well. I wanted to. I wanted to come out and make a public apology for the last. What was? I was talking about the first assignment. Uh, I don't know, I don't know why, maybe I was in a good mood at the time, but I came across as really I I mean may surprise you to to learn that I, we listen back to these apps but I, I think I came across as a I don't know what the word is, but just like you know those people where you, just you just like, oh, oh, piss off, oh, shut up mate. Why are you talking like that? Why are you? Why?

Speaker 1: 7:54

are you so?

Speaker 2: 7:54

positive about. I thought that about myself because I was kind of talking, really I don't know. I was thinking I think I made it sound really easy.

Speaker 1: 8:05

Um, can I use the first one sound easy can I use a little term that I've learned over the kind of last few weeks what prick, no, no, it's nothing. Nothing that bad. Entitled, would you say. You felt an he 100% thinks the word entitlement is so much worse than prick, he's absolutely human no, because in time, I don't think entitled describes it right.

Speaker 2: 8:34

I think prick probably describes it right. You can be an entitled prick, yeah, but entitled me think. I think it's something like I would. I would define it as like someone who thinks they've got a right right to pass it pass it, whereas I don't think that's not what I mean you did say there were six rights of procurement.

Speaker 1: 8:55

The sixth one was you getting your sips, wasn't it?

Speaker 2: 8:58

yeah, yeah no uh basically, let's just go with prick, then all right.

Speaker 1: 9:04

Well, I didn't agree to that. But you know, as soon as you're the entitled one, we'll go with yeah, right, this is.

Speaker 2: 9:10

This is my apology.

Speaker 2: 9:11

I'll choose a language, thank you so so I was better now, yeah yeah, um, but basically I, I, I think I came across as oh yeah, it's just so easy, all you need to do is this and then that, and then Shut up Luke 10, come on. So that's my apology. I wanted to start off and say, if you're struggling with it, then don't worry, because so am I. And I really found that with this second one, okay, I think, in fairness, I think what? So? The difference between the first one, which I kind of I don't know if I'd say I enjoyed it, but I didn't, maybe I thought it was going to be worse than it was.

Speaker 2: 9:57

So the difference between that one and this second module, which we're going to do the results on today, is, I think, the content's more difficult. But also so, as a reminder, you do two classroom days for each module and the classroom days for the first one I was really focused on the content, right, I was sort of like let me put all my other notifications on mute so I'm not distracted by stuff, not look at my phone. Whereas for this one, the second module, I had something else that was going on in the background, that was urgent, that I needed to also do while I was in the session Work thing.

Speaker 1: 10:40

Okay, okay.

Speaker 2: 10:41

Yeah, I wasn't just like riding a motorbike and I don't know, yeah, going to the shops for a pint of milk on the motorbike with this in my ear, um, so so I I did make it harder for myself by not fully concentrating, and you, you're like. You're like this as well, the third module which is in progress currently.

Speaker 1: 11:06

As I speak, I didn't even go to the sip session so you're getting less and less committed, so more and more entitled. What is happening?

Speaker 2: 11:18

but I'm slowly, I'm slowly making it harder for myself. I can't remember if we said, but I got 51 from a pass mark of 50 for the first one and I decided that was enough. I'm gonna make it harder for myself. You know, I've got one, one percent to spare, right, so well we'll find out by the end of this episode.

Speaker 2: 11:38

I honestly, you know there's people that like say, oh, I, I think I failed and it's just like, well, you don't really think you failed, but you're just saying it to lower expectations, right? Honestly, I really don't know this second one. I have no idea whether it felt like a pass or a fail. The actual writing of the sorry, I should talk about what topic it is, shouldn't I?

Speaker 1: 12:01

You should yeah.

Speaker 2: 12:02

So can I remember about what topic it is? Shouldn't I? You should? Yeah, so can I remember? So the second module was commercial management in procurement and supply, and the essay question was to evaluate global commercial strategy within my company. Okay, you're okay with that. So far, yes.

Speaker 2: 12:25

What we had to do was talk about a lot about strategy it's coming back to me now, which I found quite tough. So there seemed to me to be. It seemed like it wasn't very linked, I think. I think I felt that in the in the session that it's sort of like oh, we're talking about strategy, and then five minutes later, we're talking about supply chain. Yeah, and then what I don't think I really realized was that you were meant to link how your organization's strategy impacts what you do with your supply chain. I see, yeah, so that was tough, but I think once I got my head around that it, it made it a little bit better. Um, but that's why I say I'm not really sure where how this assignment would have done. I wouldn't be surprised if I failed. I I think I'd only be surprised if I got a really high mark. It didn't feel like a high mark. It's either a fail or a very close pass.

Speaker 1: 13:29

I had a feeling that was what you were doing when you apologised to the listeners. I thought you were teeing yourself up for humiliation on this pod. To be honest so how many words is it? What was it? 3k, I think 3K. Does that include things like cover page and I don't know. Like no, the um references no.

Speaker 2: 13:53

So so what's included in that is effectively I mean, there might be exceptions but basically what you create. So so what is it? I mean, I think we did talk about this in the other one, so I don't want to go over it too much, but I think it's the intro, the executive summary, the main body, the conclusion and the recommendation. So it's not references, bibliographyography, cover page, contents page, the supporting information, right. It's just, I guess, the stuff you get marked on right. So, yeah, it was a lot about strategy and about organizational structures as well. That's part of it, and also a bit about supply chain and a bit about finances in supply chain as well. Um, which was which was slightly harder to talk about um in what sense?

Speaker 2: 14:56

like finances, in how financially stable your suppliers are or, as in well, maybe that's the route I should have took it on, but I didn't. Yeah, I didn't take it on that route. I sort of talked about pricing models and how that can impact the behaviour of the companies in the supply chain.

Speaker 1: 15:15

Yeah, what's interesting I don't know you probably missed the window to kind of talk about the current affairs, but obviously the big DT is now back in, uh, presidential, the presidential cities, and I think if, for example, if you'd agreed a deal in, you know, with an exchange from, or GBP to USD, yeah, and then old DT gets in, the USD becomes a lot stronger and all of a sudden it's costing you 5-10% more because you didn't peg the exchange rate or you didn't secure it pre-agreed rate earlier.

Speaker 2: 15:54

See, this would be a perfect conversation about two months ago.

Speaker 1: 16:00

Yeah, probably would have been good, wouldn't it Would have been helpful. But look the whole idea is that you need to earn your sips, right, I'm? I'm nothing but a yoda sitting there in your kind of corner, but I'll only help you after the fact, so I'm kind of like a useless yoda useless yoda.

Speaker 2: 16:18

Yeah, luke one aka useless yoda. Yeah, I like that. I mean basically what. What this sort of ramble has been about is me sort of trying to lower expectations, but I really don't know where.

Speaker 1: 16:35

So so I got 51% last time and pass mark again is 50%, and I felt less confident in this one okay, can I ask you a question based on what you've told me so far and then, hopefully we can, we can teach the listeners something and then after that stay tuned listeners, because we will then go to the results. Live, um, well, live as we're doing it now. Obviously not for you, um, after. So I'm just going to ask my question, if that's all right, yeah, what when? When you mentioned the word strategy, what is that in sips terms or in the kind of context of this, this essay? What do they mean by strategy? Because obviously it's quite a. It's a nice sounding word, isn't it? We all want to be strategic, but what does that actually kind of look like?

Speaker 2: 17:23

so a lot of the things that was in the classroom day was around corporate strategy, so um, kind of I guess not not strictly procurement related stuff, more stuff about like, uh, I don't know differentiation. How does a company make money and why is your company? What's your company going to do to make it different from its competitor? Right, yeah, how's it gonna? How's it either going to make more money or spend less money? Um, and there was there it. It split it up into, uh, what's the what's the word? Um, development of strategy and implementation of strategy as well. Those were kind of two key and and separate areas as well, right, um, yeah, so I mean, as I say you can probably hear it as well, I found it a little bit tough. Um, it was kind of hard to. I mean, there's loads of different models about strategy that you can incorporate and you can talk about.

Speaker 1: 18:37

But yeah, I really I found it quite hard to link to procurement yeah, yeah, I found it hard to link to my job if I take the grandpa chair for a second and I say, well, back in my day, uh, when, when I was doing the essay, exams and and strategy came up, it was, it almost felt a bit wishy-washy and a bit kind of like not like you're making it up, but just a bit like nice to have, but strategic. That's what strategic thinking kind of is. It's almost like those stupid statements that are just so outrageous where you're just kind of saying you know, I want to be the number one lid flicking widget producer in india for the next 10 years, and then that's your statement, yeah. Or it's not even that, it's, I just want to be the best lid flicking widget in the world, or something outrageous like that. Or you know we want to be, yeah, minus negative carbon neutral. You know we want to be, we want to be filling oxygen into the air or some shit like that it did remind me a little bit.

Speaker 2: 19:37

Well, definitely agree with what you say, but it reminded me a little bit of a warehousing module that I did in level four and it's kind of like I don't know if. If it was, yeah, maybe it's just hard to make content about that sort of stuff, or the content that you can make is kind of like it's. It seems it's one of those things.

Speaker 1: 19:59

It seems like common sense, but you don't know it until you learn it right yeah, I mean strategic thinking is what all the big big boys do, isn't it the big bosses, the boss men and boss women? And that's where, when you get to that stage, you're thinking about those kind of long-term directions of companies and stuff. And if we go back to that example like, oh, we want to make, uh, we want to be the number one lid flicking widget supplier in india or provider in india, well, that's going to change your approach as a supply chain manager. Right, you're going to look at your suppliers and go well, who's going to help me ship to India? How am I going to deal with the currency exchange rate? Am I better off producing in India what you know? Why are we even thinking about India if we're all based in the UK things?

Speaker 2: 20:40

like that. So, yeah, which is which is where I would have gone with it. However, module three the one I'm currently doing is about global strategic supply chain management. Yeah, so it's kind of like how, how do I not go off track?

Speaker 1: 21:00

they do. They definitely overlap, but they overlap for you because you work in a company that has overseas operations. Right, not everybody doing sips will be in that same position, true, but but equally, the global supply chain management is what can you put in a contract to help reduce risk? What can you do in terms of because obviously you can't just go over to taiwan every other month and visit your suppliers and make sure they're not sweatshops, but when you're doing your due diligence, you can kind of go. Well, can they give us a tour of the place, a virtual tour, something like that, or can we actually?

Speaker 2: 21:32

just go with a supplier who's near shore as opposed to miles offshore I suppose it's similar, similar to what you would do for onshore, but just with extra checks and balances, right?

Speaker 1: 21:43

that's it. Yeah, that's it, and every everyone knows there's certain like indexes. So there's bribery and corruption indexes online where you can go and check which which countries are at high risk of being bribed or corrupt and you then don't want to trade. Well, you might, but you probably shouldn't trade with a country that's you know, quite high on that register or you know a dictatorship, for example. Do you want to be doing business with them? So just different considerations, really, yeah, yeah, the moment you've all been waiting for, especially you, lieutenant do you want?

Speaker 2: 22:20

how do you want to do it as?

Speaker 1: 22:21

well, so I want you to share your screen. Yeah, give me control and then just leave the room. I'll close my eyes. Yeah, close your eyes. Yeah, don't leave the room.

Speaker 2: 22:33

Yeah, I won't be able to call you back. Where's my screen? Do you think we've gone over it? Enough, then, in enough detail.

Speaker 1: 22:40

I think. So yeah, I think if people are interested in the strategy type of thing, then we can definitely do an episode just covering that as a topic in general, um, and in the same way that we can do faq. So if you've got any questions about how the essays work, how that, how that kind of engagement is, and how luke 10's getting on with it, you know how to get in touch with us.

Speaker 1: 23:00

But just in case you don't, you can contact us on text text or instagram us button in the description below, using our instagram link, which is uh something, underscore something, procurement something. And then the best one of all is our email address, which is yeah that is two luke's, one sip at gmailcom.

Speaker 2: 23:29

that's the number two luke's plural, the number one cip at gmailcom.

Speaker 1: 23:36

fantastic so oh, I can't control, don't I yeah, don't I. Yeah, this is crazy, this is crazy I'm a little bit worried that again.

Speaker 2: 23:51

I think I said for the last one that I just like I don't know, I uploaded a selfie of me by accident or you know, didn't upload the right document or the wrong version or something.

Speaker 1: 24:00

Uh, yeah, you uploaded a podcast recording instead. Uh, I need, I need control. My friend did you did you request?

Speaker 2: 24:15

should I deny it and then we wouldn't have? We don't have to know the results.

Speaker 1: 24:18

This is my favorite bit, for you got listeners who can't see him. He's absolutely broken it. He's uh. You've got listeners who can't see him. He's absolutely breaking it.

Speaker 2: 24:24

He's the results are on the top screen and I'm looking directly at you so I can't see. Are you in control? I'm in control. Are you in control of it?

Speaker 1: 24:38

how do I know it's on the big screen and not the little one? You'll have to trust me to be fair, you're trusting me enough to give me control of your screen. I think that's fair. It's a little bit slow, though, so bear with me. So to build up the suspense a little bit, maybe just just tell the listeners about your day, or something like that I'll, uh, I'll try and do some educational SIPs content All right.

Speaker 2: 25:07

It's kind of weird though, the way it's structured on a side note, because you or at least for these first three modules anyway I haven't looked at the schedule for the rest of them but you get the results of the one you've just done after you've started the next one. So, for example, I'd started module two by the time module one results came out and I'd start I've I haven't started yet module three by the time module two results will come out shit man.

Speaker 1: 25:42

Okay, do we just what happens if you fail.

Speaker 2: 25:44

By the way, do we just end the podcast like no, no, you can do some sort of uh you know, re-motivational you can.

Speaker 1: 25:52

You can kind of make me feel a little bit better and tell me where I went wrong, how I can improve I just think that if, if, even when that moment happens, I think we just end the episode, cut it like right now and that's it. Never have another ltp episode again. Just to put a bit of pressure on, like right now and that's it. Never have another LTP episode again. Just to put a bit of pressure on your shoulders.

Speaker 2: 26:09

No, no, no, no. That's the opposite of what we said last time, didn't we? We said once I get MSIPS, then the podcast ends. Well, it doesn't end, it doesn't end.

Speaker 1: 26:24

I just disappear into smoke and ashes and you take the mantle. You've been usurped, yeah, so, so I've. I've got the result. I've seen it. I saw it a couple of minutes ago. I'm kind of scared to tell you a couple of minutes ago.

Speaker 2: 26:37

Oh god yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1: 26:38

So if you look up at the screen, um yeah, you can look. Yeah, oh, that's what happened when I tried to access access denied. Yeah, so I tried to access your performance report Access denied yeah, so I tried to access the performance report to see what went wrong and it came up with access denied. So it must be terrible.

Speaker 2: 26:54

What went wrong? Hold?

Speaker 1: 26:55

on. Oh, did I say that? Look, listeners, make sure you're sitting down for this, because it's rough, Right? I'll read it in reverse order, okay, as a percentage Two Is that it Just 2%, 2%, yeah, six. Wait, 62?. You got a 62%, my friend, congratulations. Is that the right?

Speaker 2: 27:25

one Make sure.

Speaker 1: 27:27

Oh yeah, no, that's last year's one 62% mate damn okay, I wasn't expecting that strategic waffle is your bag, sounds of it how do I can I like sign in from a different merit as well? Merit, so you gained 11, despite doing less.

Speaker 2: 27:50

Well, I don't know if I did less, but I just felt like I didn't. I don't know if I didn't understand it as much. I guess the that's the benefit of doing one before right is because I used the feedback that I got from my last one in this one yeah so took some of it on board. So yeah, I took at least one bullet point on board.

Speaker 1: 28:11

But I'm really happy with that, mate. Congratulations, it's uh one step closer. I mean, that's what? What does that mean? Now you've got three left, four left, no, more than that wait maybe four left. I'm looking at the pending on your screen.

Speaker 2: 28:32

Uh, for those of you, who are six, six modules in total luke 10.

Speaker 1: 28:37

Did do, uh, his level four before starting the essay route. So he did the level four of our exams. He's got all that under his belt and he's now done two of the six. Was that what you were just saying? Yes two of the six. That means you are 33.333% of the way through your level five slash six.

Speaker 2: 28:58

Nice, quite nice, isn't it? I'm 30% of the way to MSIPS. Yeah, I don't think it's 30% of the effort because the last two essays are longer.

Speaker 1: 29:11

Yeah, but yeah in terms of results, in terms of what's what's been banked so far, you've actually got something in the bank now, so that's that's positive, isn't it?

Speaker 2: 29:29

that's positive, isn't it? Yeah, yeah, yeah, and, as I said, I made it harder from the first module. Yeah, and I've made it even harder for this third module. When's it?

Speaker 1: 29:36

due. So good question roughly how many? Weeks, uh, I'm gonna say roughly two brilliant, and you haven't beat 20 of the classes, so strong start no but they they do give you the recording I absolutely cannot wait to roast you when it's uh, when it's all gone wrong, although it reflects poorly on me, obviously, as a as a yoda.

Speaker 1: 29:59

Um, I'm really happy for you, mate. I'm genuinely really happy. I think that's. That's great news. It was always a good way to kind of, I guess, finish the pod. Isn't it like finish an episode when it's a nice bit of news like that? But maybe we should get some suggestions from you listeners. What do you think about when Luke gets his MSIPS, because obviously it's inevitable. What do we do to celebrate? Do we get matching MSIPS tattoos? What's kind of an ecological thing? Do we get matching msips tattoos? You know what's what's kind of an ecological thing do we? Do we shave his hair off?

Speaker 2: 30:30

yeah, could do eyebrows, yeah, or do I have to? I don't know like. I have to procure. You know, you're a real man. Now you have to procure your own.

Speaker 1: 30:42

Yes you have to start your own rival podcast, and I'll be, I'll be your, I'll be your guest it's a legal.

Speaker 2: 30:51

It's a legal requirement that you can't have two people with msips running a podcast but well, the problem is we have to change our email address. That's the worst bit well, it could still be two looks, one sip just to find someone called Sib and invite him to join us.

Speaker 1: 31:11

Don't know, but yeah, I think let's have a think about it. I think, you know, let's see what we can do. Do we get the MSIPS logo on our on our calf? You know I'm open to hearing suggestions. Yeah, there's got to be some great suggestions out there celebrating style yeah, but yeah, there's got to be some great suggestions out there.

Speaker 2: 31:29

Celebrating style yeah, but yeah, it's been a good week then, Congratulations. Second essay passed and I know now I can do 12% less work and get 10% more. No, yeah, you can.

Speaker 1: 31:44

yeah, because you know that's actually inefficient of me, I think you should just write less, so 12 less. If the essay is, you know, like 3 000 words, just just make right 2, 700, sort of vibe you have.

Speaker 2: 31:56

You have a 10 variance on what you can submit, even minimum you can, you can. The minimum you can write is what? 2700? Is that 10 percent or is that 90?

Speaker 1: 32:12

yeah, so you can't do you can't, you can't do less like 10 bullet points and say of that yeah, it can't be a short story.

Speaker 2: 32:22

That's a shame. Yeah, I mean, I could, I couldn't. You know you could make an emotional story. You could say, like, sure, what's the best short story? Luke 10 went to Sips Land and loved it. Then they might think, oh, you know, we need to see this happen in real life, because that's what happens, isn't it? Once you get M Sips, you get M-Sips, you get a free pass to Sips Land.

Speaker 1: 32:49

That's it, yeah.

Speaker 2: 32:50

Sips Land Florida.

Speaker 1: 32:51

To be honest, though, I can't talk about that oh.

Speaker 2: 32:55

It's an exclusive club. Yeah, it's an elite club. Just tell me it's worth it.

Speaker 1: 33:02

It's worth getting M-Sips for the problem it's worth getting them sips, for the problem is you can't negotiate all the rides. Yeah, you just get absolutely shafted what?

Speaker 2: 33:12

what are some of the rides that they have in sips land? Do they have, like a I don't know a teacups?

Speaker 1: 33:19

they, they may have a house of horrors um a house of horrors called Supply.

Speaker 2: 33:22

Pain House of Duck.

Speaker 1: 33:23

Ups Supply Pain. It's not a great one. Teacups yep, they do. Sips branded teacups and a merry-go-round similar to the one from Squid Game, if you've seen that? If you haven't, then check it out, because it's an absolute banger of a tune that they play while it's going around.

Speaker 2: 33:49

We could do a Sips Games.

Speaker 1: 33:54

I think we could, you know.

Speaker 2: 33:56

We could just get you know those 10 junior buyers that I keep asking if anyone wants to negotiate with and nobody does and everyone picks the other option. But yeah, maybe we could you know we could, we could you know that they're disposable. That's what I'm trying to say so.

Speaker 1: 34:20

I do know someone in in the local area who has access to a. Um I want to say it's not wwe, but it's a wrestling ring. Um, obviously it's not, it's not big league, it's just kind of like a. You know the botched ones they do on the odd weekend and um, maybe we, maybe we ask them about one sponsorship obviously, because we do love a little sponsorship deal and two, maybe just getting 10, 10 jbs in a in a ring, and maybe that's when you truly worthy of your sips is when you just bat over 10 junior buyers you can fight off 10 junior buyers yeah, then you're truly worthy and I'll bestow, I'll bestow upon you a golden microphone to hand over the pod.

Speaker 2: 35:02

Yes, yeah. And then that's when you, that's when you turn to turn to ash, isn't it? Yeah, that's when you. It's like you go out onto the cliff face and you spread your arms out in a cross shape. Yes, tip your head back to the sun. Yeah, and that's it Just sort of disintegrate slowly downwards Beautiful.

Speaker 1: 35:28

I cannot wait for that moment. I'll get rid of my back pain and I'll be a happy, happy mentor. Yeah, um, yeah, look, I think it's been a fantastic episode. Hopefully the listeners agree. And do you want to do a little your little jiggy?

Speaker 2: 35:42

before we end, let's do the bulletin.

Speaker 2: 35:46

I have two things. Firstly, we've recently been notified that we've hit 5k downloads, so I wanted to thank the listeners. Personal thanks to each and every download. We appreciate it. We're not quite. We're not quite big leagues yet. Thanks to each and every download. We appreciate it. We're not quite big leagues yet, but I think with this sort of momentum we will be soon and you guys are early investors. So, you know, once we do become big time and we start you know owning Tranmere and owning other, you know where else do we say Cayman Islands? Yeah, I think, I think this. These first 5,000 will get VIP access, the real OGs.

Speaker 1: 36:33

To Sipsland. They can come and play teacups with us in Sipsland.

Speaker 2: 36:38

Yeah, so thanks, thanks to you, thanks to you, first 5K, we really appreciate it. You are you first 5k and we really appreciate it. You are. You are my first and my favorite 5k, 5 000 people, um, but I mean just to kind of like perceive that for a second and on a serious note, imagine, imagine 5 000 people like sat in a room listening to you. It's quite mad to think about.

Speaker 1: 37:00

It's crazy and you think some people don't even want to negotiate with 10 jbs.

Speaker 2: 37:04

Imagine 5 000 jbs, 5 000 yeah, it's probably not all jbs as well. There's probably some uh grand grand garçons in there yep, yep, couple of big dogs, a couple of head honchos and a couple of uh mothers as well and a couple of uh and a couple of um private investigators as well, trying to work, trying to find us for our previous crimes that we've definitely not committed, definitely yeah.

Speaker 1: 37:34

HR and line managers are all over this. So that was your first one. What was your second?

Speaker 2: 37:39

Yes, my second one. My second one was to thank my dear friend that I've just become friends with when he submitted a comment about the podcast. No, he submitted some some feedback for us, if I could find it what friend some fan mail.

Speaker 2: 37:58

Yep, my, my best friend, jim. Jim has jim has text us. Jim has text us and I know I know it's a j name. You said on the uh, yeah, you do on our group chat that we've got with me, you and ara, and you said that is this one, is this you're doing? But it's not. I know it's a j name. Uh, you love it. It's nothing that I've, nothing that I've done. So jim has jim has text us on our text me button. In the description he has said hi guys, I just want to thank you for the excellent podcast. I've been studying since for a while and nearly given up once or twice. Thankfully, your insights and banter help me to keep going.

Speaker 2: 38:40

All the best, jim oh, mate, that's quality, that yeah, yeah, my best mate Jim, yeah, our best mate, jim, both of our best mates. Jim, you are honorary best mates to us both. Thank you for your feedback. We really appreciate it, and thanks for texting us as well.

Speaker 1: 39:01

Yeah, and good luck on your journey, man. If it's been a rough one, you know. If you've got any questions, anything we can help with, get in touch and we obviously will be more than happy to uh, give you some guidance, wisdom or bullshit.

Speaker 2: 39:12

It's up, it's up to you, really, yeah we, we will, we'll say what we've got to say, and then it's up to you to decide whether that's, you know, insightful or or if that's just complete nonsense.

Speaker 1: 39:24

Basically, yeah, and I guess also, if you haven't seen it, check out the sound director's updated bio, because he's recently been caught giving a wonderful quote about his, uh, his role as sound editor. So, um, yeah, let us know what you think about that cheeky little bonus for those of you who've got this far in this episode, and we shall see you in the next one. See you later. See you later, bye.